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EDcomics
Foxtail Dreamer
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 Posted - 02/06/2010 : 15:47:12
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Originally posted by gatchagrey
yeah..
got me an MP skywarp for 30 bucks and a lio convoy for 12...
about time those exclusives went on sale here
I wish Lio Convoy would get a little cheaper. I would pick up two for my Cybertron Optimus Prime. I like how they don't mention the combination capability at all. Speaking of which, does anyone else think that rereleasing some older Leader Class figures wouldn't be a bad idea? With all the new Transformers fans (thanks, I suppose, to the movies), there should be a whole new market for older figures. I don't know. It's just an idea. I would pick up a Nemesis Prime or Motor Master repaint of Cybertron Prime, and I'd definitely pick up an RID Prime if I could find one at retail for a decent price.
*ahem* Masterpiece Skywarp for $30? I wish I could get that deal around here. |
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gatchagrey
Bug-Shido Warrior
USA
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Posted - 02/06/2010 : 16:37:15
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| ahem if you want one let me know.. one walmart got rid of their stock down here before the clearence .. litterally relocated almost 30 of them.. the other still has about 8 left... |
      
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orionpax636
Like water, my friends...
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gatchagrey
Bug-Shido Warrior
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Chaotic Descent
Gas Station Attendant
Canada
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Posted - 02/06/2010 : 20:14:42
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Originally posted by ShadowRider
It's not suppose to make sense. Though I doubt it's similar to "idear" as that is not slang at all but just bad pronunciation like saying "lieberry." I would probably imagine it originated as a contraction like "yall" or "aint." Perhaps "Well help?"
heh. I think it's pretty silly to say idear is "not slang at all but just bad pronunciation" compared to welp. :>
The only thing I've found is on Urban Dictionary. (not really reliable) "To be used in place of 'well', when one feels there is no more to say." and you didn't know what it meant, nor did you accidentally use it appropriately.
I know I'm nitpicking on the internet, but I just thought I'd bring it to your attention.
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Originally posted by ShadowRider
But they CHANGED his NAME!!!!
At least from what I heard, not a member of the club so I don't get those comics... and why I paid so much to get Nexus 
TFwiki.net is your friend. Only the name of the toy was changed. The character in the comic retained the original name. although... they might have briefly used the new name in the comic later to tie it together.
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Chaotic Descent
Gas Station Attendant
Canada
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Posted - 02/06/2010 : 20:19:19
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Originally posted by ShadowRider
http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/universe-classics-20-29/images-of-fansproject-crossfire-sets-combined-form-and-weapons-169120/
That looks incredible.
Too bad it doesn't seem taking half of the Superion set and half of this one would work feasibly on Nexus Whatshisface. Oh well.
Mmm... It'll work, but at the worst, Topspin will stick farther out than Breakaway. I guess there's probably no way to use the shoulder connector for [Blast Off] to use on Breakaway... but who can say for sure? We haven't seen exactly how it works.
Oh, and the Superion foot might be lower than the Bruticus foot... :S Stick some platforms on the bottom are you're fine. :>
... Hrm. Well I see the shoulder extension uses the same shoulder connector as before. It allows rotation using the same joint rather than making a new joint. Although it apparently duplicates the 2nd degree of articulation in the standard joint to allow lateral limb movement. Cool.
I ALSO see that the helicopter connects by two flip out panels that wrap around the helicopter and snap onto the two cylindrical pegs that the feet normally connect to in vehicle mode.
AND that both shoulder extension boxes have these hinged panels. But the one for Blast Off has two rails to plug into his chest... which I imagine would get in the way of trying to use the 2nd helicopter instead of Blast Off. But then, why engineer both shoulder connectors with those hinged panels that seem to do the same thing? I imagine they designed it to somehow work. Perhaps the rails retract.
I just wonder if it'll work for any other mold, like the F-22 jet. (Breakaway) Hrm. Doesn't look good. There's bits that get in the way. Not just triangular bits that make certain parts wider, but also where the pegs would be you have the hinged hip joint which is much larger. Maybe the rails could be used... If they retract, they're probably wide enough to fit around a limb's standard connector, since the extended shoulder joint has what looks like an identical one, and the rails have to retract around it.
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Chaotic Descent
Gas Station Attendant
Canada
754 Posts |
Posted - 02/06/2010 : 20:23:36
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Originally posted by EDcomics
Speaking of which, does anyone else think that rereleasing some older Leader Class figures wouldn't be a bad idea? With all the new Transformers fans (thanks, I suppose, to the movies), there should be a whole new market for older figures. I don't know. It's just an idea. I would pick up a Nemesis Prime or Motor Master repaint of Cybertron Prime, and I'd definitely pick up an RID Prime if I could find one at retail for a decent price.
Re-release?
I think it's unprecedented to release the exact same figure long after the line is over unless it's something popular like an anniversary reissue, and even the great Beast Wars failed horribly with their reissues, so really it's just G1 stuff.
Cybertron Prime already got a subtle repaint at the end of the line. The figure used to be rare, but I think the repaint dampened that. It is a pretty cool mold, but I'm not sure of an absolute must-have repaint that would warrant the reuse of such a large mold. (even if there are a few neat ideas. like Optimal Optimus.)
Mold reuse, however, sure. Although I think Hasbro's FAIRLY good about their choices, they have in the past made decisions which ruin the potential for superior homages later. They said later at a BotCon that they planned to think more long term about this kind of thing, but I'm not sure if they're still intending to do that.
There was recent mention on the Allspark about the RID Prime mold. I think it's well known that fans are hungry for that unreleased 3H BotCon Defensor remold from that figure, and anything else would get a lot more angry voices than normal. :) I know I'd kill for one. He'd look great beside my Sam's Club yellow Prime and my Car Robots Fire Convoy. :P~ (hrm. just need that killer rare black one) |
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Chaotic Descent
Gas Station Attendant
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soybean56
Sculptor
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Posted - 02/06/2010 : 20:46:08
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I'm waiting and hoping that they will release a collected Animated Allsparc Almanac like they did with the two Ark books for G1.
That Blast Off figure is still looking awesome. Too bad he's too expensive.
As far as reissues, I would be all for the R.i.D. Prime mold getting reissued. He's one of my favorites, so the love should be shared with everyone. |
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gatchagrey
Bug-Shido Warrior
USA
5917 Posts |
Posted - 02/06/2010 : 21:13:22
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Originally posted by soybean56
I'm waiting and hoping that they will release a collected Animated Allsparc Almanac like they did with the two Ark books for G1.
That Blast Off figure is still looking awesome. Too bad he's too expensive.
As far as reissues, I would be all for the R.i.D. Prime mold getting reissued. He's one of my favorites, so the love should be shared with everyone.
over x-mas i picked up the beast wars onibus... the comic was ok it was nice to read a side storey to beast wars that that bridges the japanese and american shows...but the real value was in the sorcebook.. i wish they would have included beast machines in though |
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orionpax636
Like water, my friends...
USA
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Posted - 02/06/2010 : 21:21:54
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Originally posted by Chaotic Descent
Also,
http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/james-avery-cast-as-voice-actor-for-new-transformers-3-character-169101/
James Avery. Uncle Phil on Fresh Prince of Bel Air. or Shredder in the TMNT cartoon. :)
Sonuva...THAT'S why Shredder's voice sounded so familiar! I knew I recognized that blade-wielding bastard's name from somewhere...
As for the re-release of molds...I'm all for people who missed them getting another shot at the action, and it sometimes happens. I seem to remember at one time BBTS was selling Korean or Hong Kong releases of those RID molds a couple years back, including Brave Maximus.
Sadly, most of the times I see mold reuse is for Botcon exclusives (of which I have bought none...someday) or for lame repaints. Granted, a Cybertron Prime painted to look like Motormaster would be cool...and that long-lost RID Defensor is a no-brainer.
There's always hope, as Hasbro's TF team seems a bit smarter than some other branches (namely GI Joe and Marvel   ). They continue to make well-advised choices like repaints that make sense (Onslaught to Hardhead ROCKED) and homages that keep everyone happy (ROTF Bludgeon and Brawn are bada$$ and Mindwipe looks just as good). Overall, looking at other licenses, I think TF fans get lucky, by comparison. |
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Edited by - orionpax636 on 02/06/2010 21:23:00 |
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gatchagrey
Bug-Shido Warrior
USA
5917 Posts |
Posted - 02/06/2010 : 21:42:21
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lol there was a time where we got some really crappy transformers ...
it was not until the last 10 or so years..(begining with beast wars that the molds improved along with technology... and as long as they stay away from the terrible neons that were called G2 than we should be ok... for transformers there was alot of trial and error that got to being a great toyline again....and its funny with the exception of sideswipe whhich may be one of the greatest loooking transformes from the movies ...my favorites from the ROTF line were those that did NOT show up in the movie...
and if anyone think its because alot of them were non humanoid you are wrong ...i am on of the biggest beast machines fans and they didi a much better jobs with the hovering and weird lower limbs... |
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Chaotic Descent
Gas Station Attendant
Canada
754 Posts |
Posted - 02/06/2010 : 22:56:06
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Hey, don't diss the "neon"!
I don't think the Transformers team is lucky. They're very good.
I mean, it hasn't always been the same people in that team, but this last batch of people has been doing well. Say what you will about the AEC/Unicron Trilogy show, (it was anime. that actually was good.) it didn't stop growing popularity year after year, or the great toys. (say what you will about Armada. It had Minicons. Say what you will about Minicons, they worked, they were awesome, and they're coming back.)
Compare them with guys like Mattel and I think it's easy to boil it down. Mattel is ruggedly dogmatic. (sticking to whatever plan they had initially, and either ignoring indicators or being unable to change quickly enough.) Hasbro (at least Transformers) innovates. (as much as anything that keeps the same name, balancing innovation with recycling what works.)
There was luck involved in some things, like the inception of Transformers.
Transformers is #1 for a reason. Michael Bay may be all flash, but it was good business sense to get those movies made. (oh god. I feel nauseous saying things like that without insulting the crap out of him and his horrible TF movies which I've never seen.)
There is NO FUTURE for Transformers that is brighter without going through this dark time (full of explosions). We will not get our super-articulated model kit TFs aimed at teens and adults without paying the price to children and the general public. It WILL happen. Seeing the unimaginable throughout the years, I can see what's possible. (assuming the world economy doesn't collapse. I dunno. Will Transformers be able to survive that?) |
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orionpax636
Like water, my friends...
USA
3514 Posts |
Posted - 02/08/2010 : 00:42:11
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Originally posted by Chaotic Descent
I don't think the Transformers team is lucky. They're very good.
I mean, it hasn't always been the same people in that team, but this last batch of people has been doing well.
I agree with this wholeheartedly. Having conversed briefly with a couple at SDCC, I can also say some are pretty enthusiastic fans. It's always cool to meet someone that's proud of work well-done...I felt I needed to shake Bill Rawley's hand after I found out that he'd helped design Universe Hound, Universe Cyclonus and a bunch of the Animated Activators (which is a concept I'd love to see carried over for mini-bots in other lines).
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Say what you will about the AEC/Unicron Trilogy show, (it was anime. that actually was good.) it didn't stop growing popularity year after year, or the great toys. (say what you will about Armada. It had Minicons. Say what you will about Minicons, they worked, they were awesome, and they're coming back.)
You'll never catch me clowning on most of the toys from the Unicron Trilogy. Nor on Mini-cons, for that matter. We did get some top notch figures from that era, though we did get some ridiculous stinkers like the original Hot Shot and Energon's Fatimus Prime (I still bear a HUGE grudge for that). To this date, one of my favorite Primes is the super-poseable super Optimus with Over-run from Armada, as over-released as he was. And hey, we did get War Within style Seekers from the deal.
But I could never stand any of the cartoons of that series. There were too many ideas that were derivative from other Japanese series that were just executed poorly and in infuriatingly annoying fashion. I've never seen such contemptible and impossible-to-like humans as the ones found in this series (apart from her interaction with Scourge, Lori might be one of the worst TF canon humans ever imagined). The decision to turn Optimus into some abysmal combiner in Energon was totally unnecessary and resulted in a HORRIBLE character model. And while it may have been entertaining in Japan, the crappy English translations of the shows resulted in cheesy, nonsensical dialog.
Coming off of Beast Wars/Machines, I was expecting some good new canon; Robots in Disguise wasn't terrible, but it was nowhere near as nauseating as the Unicron Trilogy turned out to be. Thinking back on it, Animated is that much more mindblowing to me. |
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Edited by - orionpax636 on 02/08/2010 00:42:44 |
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EDcomics
Foxtail Dreamer
5936 Posts |
Posted - 02/08/2010 : 11:49:29
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I don't know why they called it the "Unicron Trilogy." Cybertron had nothing to do with Armada and Energon. It was a totally different continuity. The first episode shows the "origin" of transforming. They'd never been to Earth before.
I still wish they'd continued after Beast Machines. I guess it was cheaper to dub the Japanese shows, though. |
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