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EDcomics
Foxtail Dreamer
    
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Posted - 01/27/2010 : 15:24:53
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What on Cybertron could those be? I hope they're going to be produced, but it's more likely they're just rejected prototypes. They look a little too cool to see production. You know how that goes. |
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ShadowRider
It looks better from far away than up close.
    
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Posted - 01/27/2010 : 19:35:15
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^The text from the magazine scans names those two as Hot Rod and Rhinox. You can set the Hot Rod has the spoiler on the back too, though I'm not feeling that design much. Rhinox on the other hand I'd like to see more of.
Wow that WFC Prime looks better than I thought it would. Haha I think it resembled the Transtech designs too, but I seem some Animated elements too. Mrgatron looks like a bizarre hybrid of ROTF and Animated Megatron. Not too sure about that one.
Oh I picked up Arcee today. She looks cool but I still need to get her out of the package.
quote: Originally posted by orionpax636 I hear some of that. At the same time, I do like that they did develop seemingly two whole new robots. I was a bit annoyed that the Bruticus Maximus set was half recolors, and it's good to see a legit Swindle figure. I almost wish it was Brawl instead, I prefer him as a character.
That set looks expensive with all the new parts, but if I got it, I might stick with the original head. I think it's a nice update anyways.
You're right. It looks like though FP is going to be selling these as two separate sets, one with each new robot and the add-ons divided between them. I wonder how that affects the pricing? |
"...I am convinced that the only people worthy of consideration in this world are the unusual ones. For the common folks are like the leaves of trees, and live and die unnoticed." |
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orionpax636
Like water, my friends...
    
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Posted - 01/27/2010 : 21:39:46
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quote: Originally posted by ShadowRider
Wow that WFC Prime looks better than I thought it would. Haha I think it resembled the Transtech designs too, but I seem some Animated elements too. Mrgatron looks like a bizarre hybrid of ROTF and Animated Megatron. Not too sure about that one.
Hey, why don't we keep talking about Transtech?!?! I'm down with talking about that, just like how I prefer to follow up a good paper cut with a nice wash of lemon juice.     
That said, I'll take both that WFC Prime and Megatron. I do appreciate the inclusion of that line that we'll never see in production form, but I also like the incorporation of other ideas as well. As always though, I'd prefer the two head-bots to be bigger in scale, at least voyager. But I'll take what I can get. 
War Within and Animated were two TF concepts that I never would have anticipated being combined, but I see both influences in there. I'm still hoping the gameplay is as good as everything else seems to be. |
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ShadowRider
It looks better from far away than up close.
    
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Posted - 01/27/2010 : 22:10:34
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| OK It's Megatron's arms that bother me about that toy. I realize it must be mis-transformed though... but where is his cannon in RM? |
"...I am convinced that the only people worthy of consideration in this world are the unusual ones. For the common folks are like the leaves of trees, and live and die unnoticed." |
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Chaotic Descent
Gas Station Attendant
    
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Posted - 01/28/2010 : 03:15:20
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quote: Originally posted by orionpax636
quote: Originally posted by ShadowRider
Wow that WFC Prime looks better than I thought it would. Haha I think it resembled the Transtech designs too, but I seem some Animated elements too. Mrgatron looks like a bizarre hybrid of ROTF and Animated Megatron. Not too sure about that one.
Hey, why don't we keep talking about Transtech?!?! I'm down with talking about that, just like how I prefer to follow up a good paper cut with a nice wash of lemon juice.     
I think you need to sit down and take a time out.
Prime's vehicle mode at least reminds me of the TransTech design, but it really doesn't satisfy my desire for TransTech. (neither does Animated Blurr from TT Cheetor) I want a full-blown monkey-truck, with big [Beast Machines Primal]-like brawlin' forearms.
I didn't think the association with TransTech warranted a separate thread on the Allspark forum after the thread about the new WFC figures, but apparently it's exploded. People are all like, "It's a dessert topping." "No, it's a floor wax!" "No, it's a dessert topping!" (except about what styles these are drawing from. TransTech, Movie, War Within, Animated.)
quote: Originally posted by ShadowRider
OK It's Megatron's arms that bother me about that toy. I realize it must be mis-transformed though... but where is his cannon in RM?
You can see half his right hand. the other half isn't flipped out from inside his fore-arm. I haven't been on the ball lately, but I don't know the last time we've had a Transformer with hands that split between the 4 fingers like that. (I actually had that in mind for a design I was working on for pre-Earth Beast Wars Megatron as a futuristic back-hoe, mining vehicle, where his left arm was formed by the two fold-up stabilizers.)
Maybe the cannon can store on his back as well as on his arm. We'll get more pictures eventually. Also, I don't know how, but I think the treads are rotated wrong. It looks like the bottoms are facing outward. I can't figure out how they can rotate properly though. |
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orionpax636
Like water, my friends...
    
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Posted - 01/28/2010 : 03:45:10
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quote: Originally posted by Chaotic Descent
quote: Originally posted by orionpax636
quote: Originally posted by ShadowRider
Wow that WFC Prime looks better than I thought it would. Haha I think it resembled the Transtech designs too, but I seem some Animated elements too. Mrgatron looks like a bizarre hybrid of ROTF and Animated Megatron. Not too sure about that one.
Hey, why don't we keep talking about Transtech?!?! I'm down with talking about that, just like how I prefer to follow up a good paper cut with a nice wash of lemon juice.     
I think you need to sit down and take a time out.
Prime's vehicle mode at least reminds me of the TransTech design, but it really doesn't satisfy my desire for TransTech. (neither does Animated Blurr from TT Cheetor) I want a full-blown monkey-truck, with big [Beast Machines Primal]-like brawlin' forearms.
Oh, time's been taken. I'm just sayin'...
Luckily, I'm old enough of a Transformers fan and have been disappointed enough times by fate (and Hasbro) to be satisfied and patient with the excellent stuff that does see release. 
I've found my peace with the the facts that I'll probably never see a proper Transtech Prime or War Within Prime on my shelves, nor will I ever own an affordable Botcon Tigatron. However, for every Transtech we've also gotten successes like Animated and the Beast stuff.
And I always realize how fortunate I am when I fool with my Beast Wars Ultra Optimus Primal, RiD Air Attack Primal, Car Robots Fire Convoy, and BM Ultra Jetstorm.
Hasbro has taketh, but they've also given back a good bit too.   |
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EDcomics
Foxtail Dreamer
    
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Posted - 01/28/2010 : 10:27:45
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Interesting that TransTech is suddenly being discussed. Of course, you can't discuss that without discussing BEAST MACHINES, which I will defend until the day I die. As usual, I'm a cartoon-over-toy kind of guy, and I enjoyed the cartoon. A lot of the toys were great, too, but I admit a lot were stinkers. I'll chalk that up to "thinking outside the box," though.
Off the top of my head, the Black Arachnia is a fantastic figure, as were many of the other Maximals.
Anyway, TransTech seems to have been the progression of the Beast Machines story, and in true Beast Machines fashion, everyone looked completely different. I didn't mind that, though. Cheetor, BlackArachnia, Nightscream and Silverbolt all looked great. I absolutely loved the designs, and I would love to have those figures RIGHT NOW. I think trying to cram the G1 characters into the line was a bit of a bad idea, though. As much as I love Optimus, he needs to go on vacation and let some other characters shine.
We'll never see TransTech figures, though. It's a shame, but it's probably the truth. Oddly enough, the movie aesthetic sort of resembled the TransTech designs. The problem with that is that TransTech was the way-in-the-future evolution of Transformers. I need my clunky G1 bots in some form or another, and that brings us back to War for Cybertron.
Now that the images have truly sunk in, I think I know what to expect. Prime actually looks a bit flimsy and possibly lacking in the articulation department. I believe the joints are there, but I kind doubt we'll be able to get many poses out of those legs. Still, the head looks great, and a good head sculpt can sell a sub-par figure. That may end up being the case here, but whatever.
Megatron is a disappointment. I'm not saying he's garbage. I'll wait to see more. A video review would be excellent right about now. Somebody steal something from the Chinese factory! I think the biggest problem I have with WFC Megs is that he's so radically different from his G1 incarnation. He doesn't look anything like himself, and we're supposed to believe this is how he looked when he landed on Earth. The face is cool, but not quite right. I guess the biggest problem, though, is that the figure doesn't match the design well enough. The design is very well-done. The toy resembles it, but a lot of the details and angles don't match up in either robot or vehicle mode. The animated-inspired vehicle mode is cool, but not as cool as the design art for it. What a shame. Hasbro is really lazy, methinks. I understand the engineering of these figures is difficult, but if it works on a CGI model, it should translate into plastic fairly easily. Bumblebee looks spot on. Megatron should, too. |
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Lay Ze-Man
Grimey Fingered Typist
    
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Posted - 01/28/2010 : 13:11:36
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| Agreed that Megs could use some work, even assuming that pic is mistransformed. |
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ShadowRider
It looks better from far away than up close.
    
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Chaotic Descent
Gas Station Attendant
    
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Posted - 02/04/2010 : 06:36:02
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quote: Originally posted by ShadowRider
Welp,
Welp is one of the most confusing slang words to me, since it adds more instead of shortening. It's like adding an 'r' on the end of "idea" to make "idear". Is it just a confusion with the word "whelp" which means young pup? Is it just nonsensically adding sounds? I sometimes utter meaningless sounds when I perform an action such as revealing my bus pass, sort of like when people do martial arts, except obviously with less attack-sounding words. Uhg. English. I give up. :P
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nearly $50 each for the Bruticus upgrade sets. I suppose considering the new bots it reasonable?
http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=FPJ10014&mode=retail&picture=aux1 http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=FPJ10015&mode=retail&picture=aux1
$100 was my guess too. I was hoping it would be noticeably less, like $90. People quoting $150 or $200 is just insane. It also looks like the TFSource price discount for both sets was reduced by $2, making it slightly more expensive. $8 off instead of $10. Maybe it was never $10, and people just rounded way up.
Also the split of combiner parts has me baffled. [Blast Off] doesn't even come with the combiner hand that attaches to him. And the parts for Vortex are split between the two sets so that you can either connect him to Onslaught, or you can put the new fist on, but not both. Splitting the feet means they're functionally useless in vehicle mode if you only get one of the two sets. and... we haven't even seen how these extra parts are used in robot mode, if at all.
Either the parts for both legs should have been together with Swindle, and the arms (with shoulder connectors) for Blast Off; or Blast Off should have come with his fist, and Swindle should have come with the shoulder connector for Vortex. (translation for what parts to swap: option 1 - swap the foot in Blast Off's set for the gauntlet and two fists. option 2 - swap Blast Off's fist in Swindle's set for Vortex's shoulder connector.)
As it is, it's non-functional for combined mode. Mind you, I doubt that many people will be buying just one set, but still... I wonder if they'll fix that.
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ShadowRider
It looks better from far away than up close.
    
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1546 Posts |
Posted - 02/04/2010 : 18:07:50
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I'm also concerned about the division of the parts between the two sets. Particularly as I'm trying to figure out how I could go about using the pieces for Nexus Prime. As it is, the "Swindle" includes all the necessary parts minus the shoulder connector which is needed if I'm stuck having to use the given configuration for the helicopter.
Really I'm only in need of some real hands for the figure and could give these Devastator ones a try, but I'd like to find some add-on that bulks up the forearms so it's not so disproportionate. Plus those are so damned expensive in comparison to the FP sets for what you get. :/
quote: Originally posted by Chaotic Descent
quote: Originally posted by ShadowRider
Welp,
Welp is one of the most confusing slang words to me, since it adds more instead of shortening. It's like adding an 'r' on the end of "idea" to make "idear". Is it just a confusion with the word "whelp" which means young pup? Is it just nonsensically adding sounds? I sometimes utter meaningless sounds when I perform an action such as revealing my bus pass, sort of like when people do martial arts, except obviously with less attack-sounding words. Uhg. English. I give up. :P
It's not suppose to make sense. Though I doubt it's similar to "idear" as that is not slang at all but just bad pronunciation like saying "lieberry." I would probably imagine it originated as a contraction like "yall" or "aint." Perhaps "Well help?" |
"...I am convinced that the only people worthy of consideration in this world are the unusual ones. For the common folks are like the leaves of trees, and live and die unnoticed." |
Edited by - ShadowRider on 02/04/2010 18:18:06 |
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orionpax636
Like water, my friends...
    
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3514 Posts |
Posted - 02/04/2010 : 23:27:00
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quote: Originally posted by ShadowRider
I'm also concerned about the division of the parts between the two sets. Particularly as I'm trying to figure out how I could go about using the pieces for Nexus Prime.
C'mon. Refer to him by his "proper" name...Nexus Maxmius.  
(Sorry. I jest out of jealousy.) |
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ShadowRider
It looks better from far away than up close.
    
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1546 Posts |
Posted - 02/05/2010 : 01:47:41
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But they CHANGED his NAME!!!!
At least from what I heard, not a member of the club so I don't get those comics... and why I paid so much to get Nexus  |
"...I am convinced that the only people worthy of consideration in this world are the unusual ones. For the common folks are like the leaves of trees, and live and die unnoticed." |
Edited by - ShadowRider on 02/05/2010 01:48:38 |
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ShadowRider
It looks better from far away than up close.
    
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gatchagrey
Bug-Shido Warrior
    
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Posted - 02/06/2010 : 14:35:24
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yeah.. got me an MP skywarp for 30 bucks and a lio convoy for 12... about time those exclusives went on sale here |
      
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